tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post1859032971032139325..comments2024-03-28T16:02:37.211-07:00Comments on The Catholic Monitor: Protest Semi-porn Blasphemy Images of Our Lady of Fatima and SaintsFred Martinezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-54602505781861215512010-01-08T08:47:53.289-08:002010-01-08T08:47:53.289-08:00In Plain Words, You Believe Child Sex Abuse is Oka...In Plain Words, You Believe Child Sex Abuse is Okay. Please Answer Yes or No. <br />Martinez responded:<br /><br />You have to be kidding. Do you think Nietzsche, Freud, Jung and Alder were healthy?<br /><br />-Nietzsche went insane. One can not make oneself more mentally sick than that. <br /><br />-Alder wanted therapy in which adults had sex with children. Do you think that is sick or healthy?<br /><br />Your comment about Adler is an instance of circular reasoning. You are beginning with the assumption that conventional western morality is "healthy", then arguing from this that Adler's theory is unhealthy. Throughout this dialog I've been pointing out that our ideas of what is moral may not always serve our vital interests (which was Nietzsche's point), and Adler was approaching things from exactly this angle. <br /><br />Martinez responded:<br /><br />In plain words, you believe child sex abuse is okay. Please answer Yes or No. Please no more jargon.<br /><br />posted by Fred Martinez @ 9:29 PM 1 comments <br /><br />Monday, December 17, 2007<br />Do you think Freud, Jung, Nietzsche and Alder were Healthy? <br />Martinez said:<br /><br />I disagree. Each world view has consequences. For example, if one believes there is no objective good and evil, that one is beyond good and evil, then wider sexually abusing or murdering of children is a consequence. For the Christian these are undesirable, but for Alderian psychology this is desirable.<br /><br />Christians who sex abuse are betraying their ideal, whereas Alderians are fulfilling their ideal. <br /><br />Younos said:<br /><br />Nietzsche argues that when one believes that individual self-expression is a bad thing, and that the libdinal energies are evil, then a general herdlike mentality and an unhealthy devaluation of everything vital is a consequence. For the healthy person these are undesireable, but for Christians they are desireable. Christians who condemn self-aggrandizement in favor of a meek and lowly sheep-like existence, who are at perpetual war with their natural passions and therefore make themselves sick, all because they count this life as nothing compared to heaven -- are fulfilling their ideal. <br /><br />Martinez responded:<br /><br />You have to be kidding. Do you think Nietzsche, Freud, Jung and Alder were healthy?<br /><br />-Nietzsche went insane. One can not make oneself more mentally sick than that. <br /><br />-Alder wanted therapy in which adults had sex with children. Do you think that is sick or healthy?<br /><br />-Jung in a Nazi psychotherapeutic journal said, "The 'Aryan' unconscious has a higher potential than the Jewish." Were the Nazis and Jung sick or healthy?<br /><br />-Freud committed suicide and he was a cocaine addict. Do you think that is sick or healthy?Fred Martinezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-52797504139494905542009-11-08T22:42:22.121-08:002009-11-08T22:42:22.121-08:00How about a moral compass on slavery? The Old Test...How about a moral compass on slavery? The Old Testament endorsed slavery, and the New Testament sanctions it. Nowhere does the Jesus character openly condemn slavery, not one verse.<br /><br />Anyway St. B, I think I've reached my quota of fun on this perverted blog. Back to the 21st century for me where imaginary sky daddies aren't the intellectually tenable position.<br /><br />And goodbye Fred. Please be mindful of other's when you hit them with your Tsuanmis of Stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-81945497597367279052009-11-08T22:20:54.866-08:002009-11-08T22:20:54.866-08:00Equus asinus asinu. Not all donkey's, but in ...Equus asinus asinu. Not all donkey's, but in this case since "jackass" refers to a male donkey... are you following me? <br /><br />The catholic church being the moral compass for anything is comedy at it's height.άγια βήταhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00320397165426775296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-21511092051499841942009-11-08T22:05:26.351-08:002009-11-08T22:05:26.351-08:00Haha, I didn't notice I spelled stake incorrec...Haha, I didn't notice I spelled stake incorrectly.<br /><br />I like my steak extra crispy, but partially melted. Kind of like the freethinker Giordano Bruno's flesh when it was set ablaze at the stake for committing blasphemy against the Catholic faith, by way of Pope Clement's guilty verdict.<br /><br />Here's a question for you St. B,<br /><br />Discounting sheep, are there any other animals that would take moral instruction from an institution that has committed the same numerous atrocities the Roman Catholic Church has, yet still holds itself as some righteous superior moral compass that have the right answers on how to live a good life?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-85318787509952283702009-11-08T21:26:37.980-08:002009-11-08T21:26:37.980-08:00Steak? Steak? hahahahahaaaa, I'll take mine wi...Steak? Steak? hahahahahaaaa, I'll take mine with a little A-1 sauce...<br /> <br />Sex makes for a more interesting topic than this tripe. Which are you? Anorexic or plump? On the sex as food analogy?<br /><br />Nice link.άγια βήταhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00320397165426775296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-39102040587940627492009-11-08T21:18:38.569-08:002009-11-08T21:18:38.569-08:00St. B, you are Satanic filth, a witch, or possibly...St. B, you are Satanic filth, a witch, or possibly even homosexual! You need cleansing the good old Catholic way, burnt at the steak.<br /><br />Speaking of getting schooled, though it's more of a massacre. Check out <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2009/11/a_wonderful_debate.php" rel="nofollow">Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry annihilating a pair of Catholic apologists in this debate</a>.<br /><br />One of my favorite quotes from it:<br /><br />"It's the strange thing about this church: it is obsessed with sex, absolutely obsessed. Now they will say, we with our permissive society and our rude jokes are obsessed -- no, we have a healthy attitude: we like it, it's fun, it's jolly. Because it's a primary impulse, it can be dangerous and dark and difficult. It's a bit like food in that respect, only even more exciting. The only people who are obsessed with food are anorexics and the morbidly obese, and that in erotic terms is the Catholic church in a nutshell."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-89971037886278558022009-11-08T21:07:14.130-08:002009-11-08T21:07:14.130-08:00@ A. Rex,
I find it strange that Mr. Martinez fail...@ A. Rex,<br />I find it strange that Mr. Martinez fails to see the massive irony, about free speech or blasphemy in and of itself. I accuse Martinez of blasphemy. Science and facts are my gods, it's where my faith resides. He defiles both, truth be damned. J' ACCUSE !!! ( There's that pesky ridicule again.) <br /> His disrespect, hyperbole, and anecdotal flim flamery, are his side show effects in deflection and diversion. He picks and chooses at will, inane quips and comments he feels will back his point of view, with little or no reasonable support. And obviously little care if it makes any sense or has anything in the least to do with the actual topic being discussed.<br />I've decided to study under Prof. Fred Martinez, he can school me in the art and mastery of "OUT OF CONTEXT" and the ways of the bigot.άγια βήταhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00320397165426775296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-23043719728067996982009-11-08T19:53:17.311-08:002009-11-08T19:53:17.311-08:00St.B, I noticed that too. He erects straw man argu...St.B, I noticed that too. He erects straw man arguments. Erecting a straw man is a sign of weakness. But to answer your question I would quote Thomas Jefferson, "ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." :)<br /><br />Back on topic, don't forget that <b>blasphemy is a victimless crime</b> and more importantly as eloquently articulated by Noam Chomsky:<br /><br /><i><b>If you believe in freedom of speech, you believe in freedom of speech for views you don't like. Goebbels was in favor of freedom of speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you're in favor of freedom of speech, that means you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise.</b></i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-51648396492352557882009-11-08T16:20:47.398-08:002009-11-08T16:20:47.398-08:00How should I respond to a Catholic who responds to...How should I respond to a Catholic who responds to me with caricatures of positions I've never espoused by attacking things like "multiple universes" and ultimately evades the topic every time? Why does this person always create a strawman?άγια βήταhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00320397165426775296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-71970328733896409642009-11-06T11:29:44.888-08:002009-11-06T11:29:44.888-08:00First note that in order for the universe to fall ...First note that in order for the universe to fall back in on itself there would have to be enough mass for gravity to overcome the outward force of the expansion. But according to the best estimates scientists have, there isn't enough matter to cause such a contraction. Consequently, if the universe cannot contract, there could have been no previous big bangs and no endless cycles. At most you could posit one big bang. <br /><br />There is nothing that would cause the universe to expand again after it had collapsed. If such a collapse occurred - a big crunch, so to speak - the universe would remain in an unimaginably compressed state, never capable of expanding again. The tremendous gravity exerted by such a great mass would prevent any expansion. Black holes, which are most probably collapsed stars, are an example of this phenomenon on a much smaller scale. A black hole's gravitational pull is so strong not even light is able to escape from it. <br /><br />If all the matter in the universe were compressed into a single black hole or something like a black hole, the gravitational forces would be incalculable, and it is hard to imagine anything that could overcome them. If they couldn't be overcome, nothing could escape in the form of another big bang. <br /><br />Even if there were a mechanism to re-expand the universe, each cycle of expansion and contraction would lose energy because of entropy, the tendency to of matter run down, much as a spring-driven clock runs down. The extent of the universe's expansion would diminish with each cycle - consider how swings of a pendulum slowly diminish - and eventually the universe would cease expanding entirely, its mass remaining collapsed. There could never be an infinite number of successive expansions and contractions. <br /><br />Keep in mind that the idea that the universe came into existence as a result of a cataclysmic explosion of highly compressed matter is not inconsistent with the Catholic teaching that God created the universe. A big bang could have been part of his method of creation. <br /><br />But an atheist has a problem here. If there really was a big bang, and if there could not have been an infinite series of big bangs before the present one, then there are only two possibilities: Either God created matter out of nothing and (arguably) set things going through a big bang - this alternative destroys atheism - or matter existed for an infinite amount of time in a primordial black hole state. But if it existed that way for an infinite amount of time, it never could have exploded in the big bang. <br /><br />If an infinite amount of time passed without a big bang, then every combination of protoplasmic matter and energy would have existed at one time or another within that black hole, without any one combination leading to the big bang. All the combinations would have been tried, and none of them would have produced the explosion. (Remember, this presumes an infinite amount of time.) If none of the combinations could have produced a big bang, and if a big bang occurred anyway, it could have arisen only from outside intervention, not from anything inside the black hole. <br />Since the whole of the universe - all matter and energy, even space Itself - was compressed into the black hole, "outside" must imply a non-natural force, a force above nature, and that is the definition of supernatural. No matter which alternative an atheist takes, he ends up with God.<br />http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/quickquestions/keyword/atheismFred Martinezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-45841095803921147072009-11-02T10:50:43.358-08:002009-11-02T10:50:43.358-08:00Homosexuality is God’s way of insuring that the tr...Homosexuality is God’s way of insuring that the truly gifted aren’t burdened with children. -Sam Austin<br /><br /><br />To your choice as Mailer being your verbal representative... he hardly espouses your religious ideology.<br /><br />Quoting Mailer via The New York Post, Oct.7th, 2007: <br /><br />"MICHAEL LENNON: Let’s start at the beginning, with your views on God.<br />MAILER: Much of the world’s present-day cosmology is based on such works of revelation as the Old and New Testament, or the Koran, but for me, revelation is itself the question mark—not God’s word, but ours."<br /><br />"Fundamentalists look to alleviate that fear by way of what I would call their desperate belief that it’s “God’s will” and at the end they will be transported to Heaven."<br /><br />"I’ve never understood this: Why is there this enormous desire in God to be glorified? Why is that so acceptable to so many branches of religion? We laugh at people who insist on being constantly glorified. We speak of neurotic movie stars or spoiled athletes, crazy generals and impossible authors, mad kings and greed-bag tycoons. One of the few things we all seem to agree on is that excessive vanity, once it has grown into a thing in itself, is dire. By that logic, a God-sized vanity is hard to comprehend. Where is the need for it?"άγια βήταhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00320397165426775296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-32879744156377136612009-11-02T09:58:11.187-08:002009-11-02T09:58:11.187-08:00Norman Mailer, in his book "Prisoner of Sex,&...Norman Mailer, in his book "Prisoner of Sex," shows why this relativism and moving away from natural objective truths such as heterosexual sex can lead to will to power: <br />"So, yes, [homosexuals] in prison strive to become part of the male population, and indeed – it is the irony of homosexuality – try to take on the masculine powers of the man who enters them, even as the studs, if Genet is our accurate guide, become effeminate over the years. ... Homosexuality is not heterosexuality. There is no conception possible, no, no inner space, no damnable spongy pool of a womb ... no hint remains of the awe that a life in these circumstances can be conceived. Heterosexual sex with contraception is become by this logic a form of sexual currency closer to the homosexual than the heterosexual, a clearinghouse for power, a market for psychic power in which the stronger will use the weaker, and the female in the act, whether possessed of a vagina or phallus, will look to ingest or steal the masculine qualities of the dominator." <br />This is the end result when universal truths and responsibility toward those truths are denied. The only "currency" left to the left is stealing of power, because they are insecure in any truth including their own objective masculinity. <br />Unsure of their own objective masculinity – or any objective truth, for that matter – they will not tolerate truth, calling it intolerance. They will not tolerate the truth of the purpose of sex, which is married love, with the creation of a secure family for the children of that love.Fred Martinezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-75604144414724746932009-11-02T08:55:26.268-08:002009-11-02T08:55:26.268-08:00You used the words of a fictional demon to rebut? ...You used the words of a fictional demon to rebut? I suppose you fail to see the irony. You already use the words and acts of fictional characters to rule your everyday life and judge others by. There is a difference between parody/humor and flippancy. Humor and parody need understanding and knowledge, where as flippancy requires nothing but blindly brushing away anything you deem inconsequential. Oh, wait, I guess that would be you wouldn’t it? (That was sarcasm.)<br /><br />I’ve always wanted to know… is ignorance really bliss?άγια βήταhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00320397165426775296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-71804875007296805542009-11-02T07:12:00.744-08:002009-11-02T07:12:00.744-08:00C. S. Lewis in his book The Screwtape Letters desc...C. S. Lewis in his book The Screwtape Letters describes the real agenda of this “comedy” as a "thousand miles away from joy; [in that]it deadens, instead of sharpening, the intellect."<br /><br />In the book his character, who is a senior evil spirit, says:<br /><br />"But Flippancy is the best of all. In the first place it is very economical. Only a clever human can make a real Joke about virtue, or indeed about anything else; any of them can be trained to talk as if virtue were funny. Among flippant people the Joke is always assumed to have been made. No one actually makes it; but every serious subject is discussed in a manner which implies that they have already found a ridiculous side to it. If prolonged, the habit of Flippancy builds up around a man the finest armour-plating against the Enemy [God] that I know, and it is quite free from the dangers inherent in the other sources of laughter. It is a thousand miles away from joy; it deadens, instead of sharpening, the intellect; and it excites no affection between those who practice it."Fred Martinezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-83432718769516109842009-11-01T10:32:53.649-08:002009-11-01T10:32:53.649-08:00Sir, perhaps you should avail yourself of a dictio...Sir, perhaps you should avail yourself of a dictionary. <br /><br />par·o·dy [pérrədee]<br />n (plural par·o·dies) <br />1. amusing imitation: a piece of writing or music that deliberately copies another work in a comic or satirical way <br /><br />Comedy is subjective.άγια βήταhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00320397165426775296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-43974543706796472412009-11-01T09:39:52.150-08:002009-11-01T09:39:52.150-08:00Please remove http://blasphemia-nervosa.blogspot.c...Please remove http://blasphemia-nervosa.blogspot.com/ from my blog because it is sick porn and anti-Christian and anti-Islam.<br /><br />Please pray for this homosexuals who seem satanic in their anti-Christian and anti-Islam views.<br /><br /><br /><br />Fred MartinezFred Martinezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-78490055825213794512009-10-31T21:31:21.560-07:002009-10-31T21:31:21.560-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.άγια βήταhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00320397165426775296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-40008916052870074592009-10-31T21:25:41.121-07:002009-10-31T21:25:41.121-07:00http://blasphemia-nervosa.blogspot.com/
I find yo...http://blasphemia-nervosa.blogspot.com/<br /><br />I find your outrage somewhat astounding. You'd think as christians you'd comprehend the rights of free speech. We must tolerate your delusional diatribes, so you can withstand the jocularity of others. carpe diemάγια βήταhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00320397165426775296noreply@blogger.com