tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post4142383976972283752..comments2024-03-26T05:47:00.389-07:00Comments on The Catholic Monitor: Did the French "Theologian" Henri de Lubac bring us the Amazon Synod?Fred Martinezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-82145885699553080802021-09-18T20:40:58.595-07:002021-09-18T20:40:58.595-07:00Thank you for the article.
Lets begin with the cr...Thank you for the article.<br /><br />Lets begin with the crux of your argument. Here you are claiming that de Lubac's argument for the natural (innate) desire for the Supernatural leads to the sacrilege we saw at the Synod on the Amazon. We must then focus on your argument from the section "A Gift Defiled: Nature and Grace in Henri de Lubac". You stated:<br /><br />"The moment we admit into created human nature anything of the "divine reality" which is not there as a grace "added" to human nature, we have destroyed the absolute distinction that must be made between God and His creation, between the supernatural and the natural."<br /><br />From my research, it appears that what de Lubac "admitted" into created human nature was an innate desire (movement toward God) implanted within man by God Himself. De Lubac holds that this movement implanted in man (by God) can be rebelled against by the man himself. De Lubac also clearly argued in each of his books on the Supernatural that grace is necessary to enable man to be united with God. Without grace, de Lubac held, man cannot be united with God.<br /><br />Also, the question you reference from Prima Parse (q. 101) deals with "perfect knowledge" (or lack thereof) prior to the soul's acquired knowledge of things through the senses. I'm not exactly sure how you dismiss de Lubac's defense of a natural ("innate") desire for God (the Supernatural) with this question. For de Lubac, it is the very lack of grace that frustrates the human person in pursuit of ultimate happiness apart from God. Paradoxically this frustration is the evidence for man's ultimate vocation (to be united with God).<br /><br />One question many pose regarding de Lubac's position is regarding the proportionality of nature and grace. Some neo-scholastic theologians during de Lubac's time were arguing that any "natural" desire (an appetite) demands a power or an ability on part of that creature to obtain (on his own volition) the end to which he has been ordered. This is where de Lubac makes the argument that with man (as distinct from other creatures) this logic falls short. Man is born with an innate desire for that which exceeds his powers. Some have questioned de Lubac's theology by asserting that if man has a natural desire for the supernatural (grace), then this necessarily places a demand (exigency) upon God to supply grace. I believe de Lubac's reply would be that the natural desire does not place a demand upon God, but rather on man (thus the frustration that torments man if he pursues goods (or false goods/gods) lower than God for his ultimate fulfillment.<br /><br />I'm pretty sure de Lubac would be disturbed by the pachemama debacle, because here man is turning against his own nature (and the desire planted within) and most importantly against God. While man has a natural desire for God, idolatry is perversion of the worst.Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14382495386493145312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-1958990274918005892021-09-18T20:36:40.653-07:002021-09-18T20:36:40.653-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14382495386493145312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-48435241324564515912019-10-21T09:58:22.440-07:002019-10-21T09:58:22.440-07:00It looks like the last three lines are what he ...It looks like the last three lines are what he 'wants' to say ... the rest is what he 'has' to say perhaps. He is very serious and very sensitive I think. I never know what each good one is laboring under. It must be horrible.<br /><br />Despite all, FIVE of the pachemama demonic idols got splashed into the Tiber during the night. Hurray! "Rome is outraged" Maybe Cardinal Sarah did it. LOL I think he would. Let us hope and pray that these brave crusaders get the rest of them. I love this act.marysonghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14817086288963165340noreply@blogger.com