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Might Gay Rights Crusaders Cheney and Giuliani Join the Clintons in the Democrat Party?

Voting for Giuliani is the same as voting for Bill Clinton or Hillary. Dick Cheney, gay rights crusader,and junior gay rights crusader Giuliani need to join the Democrat party. In April Ohio Democratic Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich introduced articles of impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney. I'm starting think that's not a bad idea.

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Cheney, gay rights crusader?
Conservative groups beat up GOP veep nominee, Lazio blasts Clinton campaign for following his wife and Sharpton hits Lazio for following Giuliani's example.
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By Alicia Montgomery


October 10, 2000 | Dick Cheney's debate performance was praised by friends and foes alike. However, his remarks on gay marriage rubbed some conservatives the wrong way. The New York Times reports that "family values" groups are blasting Cheney's opinions on gay rights, including his assertion at the veep debate that "people should be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to enter into" and that legally recognized same-sex marriage is up to individual states. That's not what the Republican Party platform says. It declares instead: "We support the traditional definition of marriage as the legal union of one man and one woman."

The American Family Association wants Cheney to follow the platform's lead. "Live and let live is fine as a policy for people's private lives, but Secretary Cheney should have been much stronger in saying that same-sex marriages are wrong," Tim Wildmon, president of the association, said in a statement on his group's Web site. But Cheney won't say any such thing. Though he has pledged to follow the policy set by George W. Bush -- who stands solidly against same-sex marriage -- the Republican veep wannabe insists, "My position's unchanged." Cheney refused to talk about what effect having an openly gay daughter, Mary Cheney, has had on his position. "I have consistently refused to get into the business of talking about Mary," he said. "She's entitled to her privacy."

Rudy in Drag--is Rudy a crossdressing tranvestite?


There`s something a little odd about Rudy Giuliani. He likes to get
dressed up as a woman. Repeatedly. In really, really outrageous and
revealing outfits (check out the crotch shot in the chorus line
below).
http://www.allreaders.com/rudy_giuliani.asp?autonumber=5


Now, New York has a lot of homosexual voters. And homosexuals do vote,
when they`re not having homosexual sex. This could be seen as a
measure to appeal to the gay vote? except? Rudy has done it so many
times. He really seems to enjoy it. While he was dressed in a flowing
pink gown as a woman Giuliani took the name `Rudia` and, said, in a
gay voice, that he was a `Republican pretending to be a Democrat
pretending to be a Republican` Could Rudy be gay? Obviously, he has
had three wives, so he`s doing something with women? unless they`re
beards. A `beard` is a term for a hollywood actor who is gay, but to
hide the fact that he is gay, takes a girlfriend or wife, ala Tom
Cruise and Katie Holmes, or Ed Koch and Bess Myerson. Could Judith
Nathan, Rudy`s current wife, be a beard? That might explain why
Giuliani`s previous marriages broke up. Maybe wife #2 Donna Hanover
got tired of being a beard. After they separated she appeared in the
Vagina Monologues, a play where she talked at length about her vagina.
Did she feel a need to shower so much attention on it because Rudy
wouldn`t pay any attention to hers?


And after Rudy Giuliani broke up with Donna Hanover, he moved out of
Gracie Mansion and moved in with A PAIR OF GAY MEN WHO WERE COUPLING
WITH EACH OTHER. That`s kind of an odd place for a straight guy to
move to, isn`t it? Also, Rudy was made a knight by the Queen of
England--and everyone knows she only makes gay people like Elton John
knights nowadays--is this more evidence? If Rudy is gay, he`s probably
bisexual. And if he is bisexual, he could be blackmailed if he became
president. Imagine if the President of Iran found out President
Guiliani was homosexual and blackmailed him. Rudy would be forced to
give him nuclear weapons. Even if Rudy isn`t bisexual as many people
think, it`s still unfitting to have a President who dressed as a woman
in tight crotch outfits. During a state dinner he might dress like the
first lady. We`re electing a president, not a porno star

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Rudy Giuliani and Alan Placa: "Mayor Morality" and the PEDOPHILE PRIESTS

References:
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2007/03/rudy_giulian...
http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/432306c2-20b7-4fb5-bb5a-008d54eaf343
http://trustme.com/story.php?title=Rudy-Giuliani--pedo-priest
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/
http://littlemissattila.mu.nu/archives/giuliani_in_drag.jpg
http://bottleofblog.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/guilianidrag.jpg


With the above references you can read in depth about priestly pedophilia
and its ties to a rather hypocritical Presidential candidate. Giuliani's
close association with and promotion of criminal cop Kerik is a better known
issue, as are his adultery and family estrangements, but these are less
deeply indicative of Giuliani's moral bankruptcy than his relatively unknown
Placa connection.


Alan Placa and Rudy Giuliani were high school buddies, and they remained
close friends through College. Post-college, Placa went to the Seminary, and
Giuliani to law school. After he was ordained, Placa attended law school
too. Eventually he became a Monsignor in the Diocese of Rockville Center on
Long Island, and Giuliani went to Washington in Reagan's Department of
Justice. When Giuliani wanted an annulment of his first marriage - to a 2nd
cousin, a union normally frowned upon by the Catholic Church, Placa did the
job - after being best man at their wedding!


Monsignor Placa got into considerable trouble in the late 1990s when accused
of sexually abusing two minors that could not sue him or the Diocese because
the five-year statute of limitations was long past. When the story broke
Monsignor Placa came up in several parts of it. While serving on Long Island
he had developed a legal strategy for dealing with sex abuse complaints.
This involved having an "intervention team" meet with family members and the
abused, without revealing that Placa was indeed the Diocese lawyer on such
matters. Placa took great pride that in cases that if litigated might cost
the Diocese millions, he could frequently manipulate the situation and get
them off for a few thousand. Of course the Monsignor was flying a false
flag - he was not a spiritual counsel, he was the Bishop's lawyer. He
traveled the country teaching Bishops this evasion technique, with about 200
successful cases outside his own Diocese.


In the 1980s, the preferred method of dealing with Priestly Pedophilia was
to send the black-collared child molesters off for "therapy." There were
several institutions available, one being a huge fraud called the House of
Affirmation run by a Father Thomas A. Kane. Kane lied about his degrees in
psychology, but that was only found out later. In the meantime he acquired
lots of high-grade real estate, and when he was about to go under, he
transferred to Placa titles for property in Massachusetts and Florida, among
other assets. The transfers were not discovered for years.


When this story was all over the papers in 2002, Suffolk County Long Island
had a Grand Jury review the situation with the Rockville Center Diocese, and
while they could not charge Placa because of the statute of limitations,
they issued a report about his "intervention team" manipulating victims and
their families, and the allegations of his abuse of two teens. As a result
Monsignor Placa was suspended from the priesthood and essentially defrocked.
He was allowed to say one public Mass however - at Giuliani's Mother's
funeral, causing the event to be picketed by sex abuse victims! When the
Grand Jury was trying to serve Placa with a subpoena, Giuliani hid him until
the term was out - a probable obstruction of justice by former U.S. Attorney
Giuliani.


Placa is today an extremely close Giuliani friend and associate, despite
being credibly accused of sexual molestation and, perhaps worse, using the
system to cover up his and other abuse cases. The story goes back to a 2002
Newsday article about a January 1975 day when a teenager, Richard Tollner,
volunteered to help make banners for the annual Right to Life march in
Washington. According to the story, the student claims Monsignor Placa
pulled out some posters in the deserted administrative area as if to show
him something, and then began fondling him - all the while making
conversation about the posters.


Tollner said the incidents were repeated every month or so for the next year
and a half. "It was always groping," he said. "He'd draw his hand
deliberately to the inside of my thigh, and over my penis. It would go on
for four or five minutes, sometimes as long as ten."


Placa denies any wrongdoing and has never been formally charged with a
crime. But it is also true that the Diocese of Rockville Center has removed
him from wearing the collar and performing official duties.


It should also be noted that a Grand Jury report paints a devastating
picture of sexual deviancy and criminality in his Rockville Center Diocese.
According to the National Catholic Reporter:


"The report documents allegations of the rape of cheerleaders and altar
boys, of acts of molestation and seductions in churches, rectories, on
camping trips, and in the homes of the minors who were abused. It tells of
instances in which priests provided minors with pornography and alcohol, and
of cases in which the Diocese received allegations but didn't report them to
the police, but instead transferred the accused priests to other parishes."


In the Suffolk County Supreme Court Grand Jury report, Placa, by his own
admission, is referred to as "Priest F," a priest who engaged in pedophilia.
Even after the grand jury testimony, Giuliani stood by him. In another 2003
New York Times article, Placa described the zero-tolerance sex abuse policy
on priests as "immoral and unchristian." Apparently, in Placa's mind, Christ
condoned such perversions. Judging by his loyalty and support, Presidential
candidate Giuliani, proven transvestite and adulterer, does likewise.


Additionally, the 2002 Newsday story included a quote from Kevin Waldron, a
fellow high school friend who corroborates sex abuse victim Tollner's story,
saying Tollner told him of the events after they happened. The Newsday story
goes on to report:


"A second former student, who asked that his name be withheld, said he
described to Suffolk prosecutors what he called 'the newspaper drill.' 'He
(Placa) always had a New York Times in his office. And he'd sit down next to
you on the couch and open it wide and, inevitably, his hand would brush your
crotch.' 'He did it over and over again, I can't tell you how many times.'
That man said he felt so violated that he wrote Placa an unsigned letter 20
years later, blaming him for his loss of interest in pursuing the
priesthood."


Despite all these allegations, Giuliani hired Placa right after all this
went down, and based on news reports and a call to the Giuliani Partners
office, he remains with him today. And as the New York Times reported in
2002, even amid these strong allegations Giuliani jumped to Placa's defense
saying: "He's one of the people I admire most in the world, and if most
people did half the good that Alan's done, the world would be a wonderful
place." Yes, in Giuliani's world, and in America under his Presidency, child
molesters would run free to prey upon minors, they would protect each other
through religious organizations, and criminals would head police departments
and the Department of Homeland Security. And thus, under Giuliani's rule,
"the world would be a wonderful place."


Every bit of this has been reported over the years in Newsday, the NY Times,
and in books by Jason Berry. You can find the articles, as well as the Grand
Jury report, archived at www.bishop-accountability.org/. The Times
front-paged it when Giuliani hired Placa for his consulting firm.


So why did Giuliani defend and hire the unsavory Alan Placa? Is this his
version of Affirmative Action? We know he recommended his buddy, criminal
cop Kerik, to George W. Bush for heading up Homeland Security. And two-faced
Giuliani, the closet neo-con, is now flip-flopping on the abortion issue,
among others. He tries to curry favor with pro-choice advocates but as
President would probably sabotage women's rights through judicial appointees
that would overturn Roe vs. Wade. If Giuliani is elected we could well see
pedophile priest-lawyers that oppose abortion on "moral grounds" sitting on
the Supreme Court!


And why the lack of media attention to all this today? Suppose John Edwards,
Barack Obama, or Hillary Clinton had given a cozy sinecure to a defrocked
priest credibly accused of pedophilia. What would occur? I'll tell you
what - every newspaper reader, every radio listener, and every television
news watcher in America would be discussing the matter the very next day.
But I'll bet you're learning for the first time right here about Giuliani's
de facto defense of child abuse and staunch support of his probable
pedophile priestly pal.


Aside from his moral issues, do we want a President of the United States
whose definition of freedom is:


" - FREEDOM IS NOT A CONCEPT IN WHICH PEOPLE CAN DO ANYTHING
THEY WANT, BE ANYTHING THEY CAN BE. FREEDOM IS ABOUT AUTHORITY.
FREEDOM IS ABOUT THE WILLINGNESS OF EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING
TO CEDE TO LAWFUL AUTHORITY A GREAT DEAL OF DISCRETION ABOUT
WHAT YOU DO AND HOW YOU DO IT."


- Mayor Giuliani, quoted in the New York Times, March 17, 1994.

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Dobson Rips Giuliani's 'Moral Positions'
Focus On The Family Leader Critical Of Giuliani, McCain


POSTED: 10:11 am EDT May 18, 2007
UPDATED: 10:25 am EDT May 18, 2007

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WASHINGTON -- A prominent conservative Christian leader said Thursday that "my conscience and my moral convictions" prevent him from voting for Rudy Giuliani should he win the Republican nomination.

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In a blistering online column, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson wrote that, should the former New York mayor become the nominee, "I will either cast my ballot for an also-ran -- or if worse comes to worst -- not vote in a presidential election for the first time in my adult life."



"Many liberal Americans will agree with the social positions espoused by Giuliani. However, I don't believe conservative voters whose support he seeks will be impressed," Dobson said on WorldNetDaily, a conservative news Web site.

A conservative Christian evangelical based in Colorado Springs, Colo., Dobson said he was speaking as a private citizen. However, his words carry considerable weight with the some 7 million listeners of his conservative radio show.

Earlier this year, Dobson said he won't back John McCain because of the Arizona senator's opposition to a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage. Dobson has given no public indication on how he feels about the other top-tier candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. The two, however, have met privately.

Dobson called Giuliani an "unapologetic supporter of abortion on demand" and criticized him for signing a bill in 1997 creating domestic-partnership benefits in New York City.

He said there were other "moral concerns" with Giuliani, including that he's on his third marriage to "his mistress" from his second marriage and "appears not to have remorse for cheating on his wife."

Last week in a speech in Houston, Giuliani urged Republican voters to look beyond the differences they have with him on social issues and said it was important to respect those with whom one disagrees.

"From the beginning Mayor Giuliani has been straightforward with the American people about where he stands on the issues," said Maria Comella, a Giuliani spokeswoman. "It is a sign of leadership to speak honestly about your beliefs even when it is not politically expedient."
Samuel David Cheney's Two Mommies
Contact: Peter LaBarbera, president, Americans For Truth, 630-546-4439, 630-717-7631



OPINION, May 24 /Christian Newswire/ -- Peter LaBarbera, president of Americans For Truth, submits the following and is available for comment on the birth of Samuel David Cheney, who will be raised by the Vice President's daughter, Mary Cheney, and her lesbian partner, Heather Poe:



Samuel David Cheney's Two Mommies

By Peter LaBarbera




Today's USA Today reported the birth yesterday of Samuel David Cheney, with the following caption under a White House photo.



"U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney and wife Lynne Cheney hold their sixth grandchild, Samuel David Cheney, born Wednesday in Washington. His parents are the Cheneys' daughter Mary, and her partner, Heather Poe."



There should be no touch of sadness when a healthy baby boy is born to two parents, but in this case, we're afraid, there is.



While we celebrate life, we cannot celebrate homosexual parenting -- which involves intentionally denying a child either a mom or a dad. In this case, young Samuel David -- who, as a Cheney, will surely enjoy privileges and comforts greater than most children born in 2007 -- will be missing an irreplaceable one: a father, to have as a guide, male authority, friend and role model as he grows from boy into man.



The pro-"gay" media have an odd way of reporting stories like this, as if both Mary Cheney and Heather Poe were involved in the baby's conception. To do otherwise, I suppose, would call unwanted attention to the unnaturalness of the enterprise known as "gay parenting." And yet, the truth remains: two homosexuals cannot create a baby. Heterosexuality -- the people that radicals in the early days of "gay liberation" derided as "breeders" -- must be involved.



The USA Today reports that Vice President Dick Cheney has "bristled at questions on the topic." But he and Mrs. Cheney, an ardent foe of political correctness, and a conservative, should know that there is nothing wrong with asking critical questions about something so patently wrong -- and against Nature, common sense, and God's wonderful design of the family itself -- as parenting that is fatherless or motherless by design.



We will keep on asking those tough questions, all the while praying for this boy, and that both Mary Cheney and Heather Poe will join Charlene Cothran and the many women who have come out of homosexuality, which surely is not God's plan for their lives.



Peter LaBarbera is the president of Americans For Truth, an organization devoted solely to confronting the homosexual, bisexual and transgender activist agendas.



Dick Cheney's Gay Daughter Now Mother
Mary Cheney Drew Scrutiny From Dobson


POSTED: 6:12 pm EDT May 23, 2007
UPDATED: 6:35 pm EDT May 23, 2007

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WASHINGTON -- Vice President Dick Cheney's daughter Mary delivered an 8-pound, 6-ounce baby boy on Wednesday, the first child for her and her female partner of 15 years, Heather Poe.

Survey: Daughter For Mary Cheney?




Samuel David Cheney was born at 9:46 a.m. at Sibley Hospital in Washington, the vice president's office announced. Vice President Cheney and his wife, Lynne, paid a visit to their new -- and sixth -- grandchild a few hours later.



Mary Cheney announced in December that she and Poe had decided to start a family. Her decision to become pregnant and raise a child with Poe was criticized in some conservative circles.

James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, asserted that children need to be reared by heterosexual married couples, for instance.

"With all due respect to Cheney and her partner, Heather Poe, the majority of more than 30 years of social-science evidence indicates that children do best on every measure of well-being when raised by their married mother and father," he wrote in Time magazine.

"That is not to say Cheney and Poe will not love their child. But love alone is not enough to guarantee healthy growth and development. The two most loving women in the world cannot provide a daddy for a little boy -- any more than the two most loving men can be complete role models for a little girl."

The vice president bristled at questions on the topic, even though President George W. Bush and Republican candidates asserted their opposition to gay marriage in recent election cycles.

Campaign rhetoric aside, the president said he believed Mary Cheney and her partner would make loving parents.

Mary Cheney was an aide to her father during the 2004 campaign and now is vice president for consumer advocacy at AOL.




Will Giuliani replace Cheney in ’04?


By Jeannette Walls with Ashley Pearson
MSNBC
Updated: 11:56 p.m. PT Jan 26, 2004
Will there be a Bush/Giuliani ticket in '04?

A well-placed source says that the president will “most likely” drop Dick Cheney from his re-election ticket and his first choice for a replacement is former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani.

“The issue of Cheney’s health will probably be given as the reason,” says the insider. “There’s a short list of possible replacements, and Rudy is at the top of the list.”


The source adds that the selection of the former New York mayor may be overridden by Bush advisors from the far right. “Giuliani has been pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and is pretty liberal on some other social issues, but the thinking is that he might broaden Bush’s appeal.”

If, however, Giuliani gets bumped from the ticket, says the source, “expect him to get a prime assignment in Washington as an consolation prize.”

Bush’s rep didn’t return calls, and a spokeswoman for Giuliani said, “Rudy Giuliani has been out in Iowa and New Hampshire talking about the incredible accomplishments of Vice President Dick Cheney with George Bush and working very hard to get them both re-elected.”

Kucinich’s Impeachment Proposal Takes Antiwar Stand to New Lengths
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Published: April 24, 2007
Ohio Democratic Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich on Tuesday introduced articles of impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney for “high crimes and misdemeanors” related to his participation in the buildup for the war in Iraq — and what the longshot Democratic presidential contender said was belligerent rhetoric toward Iran.

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In an 18-page draft resolution, Kucinich outlined three charges against Cheney: that he “manipulated the intelligence process . . . by fabricating the threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction” to justify the war in Iraq; that he deceived citizens and Congress “about an alleged relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda” to justify the war; and that he has “openly threatened aggression against the Republic of Iran, absent any real threat to the United States, and has done so with the United States’ proven capability to carry out such threats.”

“In all this, Vice President Richard B. Cheney has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as vice president, and subversive to constitutional government, to the prejudice of the cause of law and justice and the manifest injury of the people of the United States . . . [and] by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office,” the resolution concluded.

Kucinich introduced the articles at a news conference held at 5 p.m. Tuesday on Capitol Hill, which was delayed for several hours. The event was originally planned for noon, but Kucinich initially postponed it based on news reports Cheney was undergoing emergency medical treatment for a chronic blood clot condition in his leg. When subsequent news reports indicated the tests were more routine, Kucinich rescheduled the event.

Kucinich — who opposed military intervention in Iraq from the start and voiced strong criticism of the Bush administration’s policy during a quixotic run for the 2004 Democratic presidential nomination — again has made his antiwar stance a main issue of his bid for the White House.

Democratic leaders, who have stated repeatedly they have no intentions of pursuing the impeachment of either President Bush or Cheney, do not support the impeachment effort. Kucinich said Tuesday that he did not have any co-sponsors for the resolution. But he proclaimed that he had the support of “millions of Americans.”

Speaking at the news conference, Kucinich said he was pursuing impeachment of Cheney, and not Bush, for practical reasons. “It’s significant and responsible to start in this way, because if the same charges would relate to the president as relate to the vice president, you would then have to go through the constitutional agony of impeaching two presidents consecutively,” he said.

Kucinich posted his proposed articles of impeachment on his congressional Web site.

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Dennis J. Kucinich: "Privatizing Iraq's Oil is Theft!" ??
Rep. Kucinich explained how the proposed Bill, now pending before the U.S. Congress, via its benchmarks, will provide for the privatization of Iraqi oil. It requires the regime in Iraq to pass a law called, "The Hydrocarbon Act." If they refuse to do so over a billion dollars in reconstruction funds will be blocked by the Bush-Cheney administration, he claimed. - Unless the scheme is stopped, Rep. Kucinich predicted, we will be looking at an Iraqi War "going on forever!"
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