Tuesday, October 08, 2019

Did Dr. Taylor Marshall join Fr. Nix in Calling for a Imperfect Council?

It appears that Dr. Taylor Marshall on his popular YouTube TnT show might have joined his frequent guest co-host Fr. David Nix in calling for a imperfect council.

However, Marshall's possible call for a imperfect council (unlike Fr. Nix's call which seems to enjoin a judgement of the validity or invalidity of the papacy) appears to be to judge if Francis is a "manifest heretic" and therefore after the proper canonical procedures "loses" his "office."

Today, from Marshall's show, here are his words:

"[Alphonsus Liguori says] anyone who is a heretic loses their office including the pope. Robert Bellarmine and St. Alphonsus Liguori say even when the pope as a private person falls into heresy he falls from the pontificate. If that's the case, we may seem pretty close..." (From: 36:00-36:18)

"... I found it. Here is the quote, St. Alphonsus Liguori: 'If ever a pope as a private person should fall into heresy, he would at once fall from the pontificate.' Liguori says immediately." (From 36:31-37:25)

"Here is Robert Bellarmine: 'The pope who is a manifest heretic automatically per se ceases to be the pope as he ceases to be a Christian and a member of the Church. Wherefore, he can be JUDGED BY THE CHURCH. This is the teaching of all the ancient Fathers who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction'... Those are some heavy hitters: Robert Bellarmine and Alphonsus Liguori. I can't believe we're talking about this now about Robert Bellarmine and Alphonsus Liguori. There has to be a way out of there."
(TnT, "Amazon Paganism in Rome, and Pope Francis," October 8, 2019)

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church.

17 comments:

Unknown said...

The hour is late, very late. But with God nothing is impossible.

Jafojeff said...

Well not doctrine but approved privet revelations say Our Lord said something similar too…


53.25 1820-1821 (No precise date) [Anne Catherine Emmerich] "I see many excommunicated ecclesiastics who do not seem to be concerned about it, nor even aware of it. Yet, they are (ipso facto) excommunicated whenever they cooperate to [sic] enterprises, enter into associations, and embrace opinions on which an anathema has been cast. It can be seen thereby that God ratifies the decrees, orders, and interdictions issued by the Head of the Church, and that He keeps them in force even though men show no concern for them, reject them, or laugh them to scorn."

God Bless, Viva Cristo Rey!

marysong said...

So discouragin to read of all these complaints about Dr. Marshall. Did you know he was not just a Episcopalian "priest" ... he was a Bishop. He's trying real hard to be a good Catholic and he's succeeding and we're blessed to have him on our side. He is a good man. We're blessed to have you also. Can we all try hard not to a source of discouragement and upset to others .....

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Chris Benischek said...

Dr. Marshall is coming around. In Rome he appears to have been shocked by all the talk that possibly, just maybe, Benedict is pope. Leaving Francis as either a false pope or an Antipope or both.

He looked shocked as he faced this fact. Poor Taylor. I’m praying for him. The depth of depravity of Francis who has just today denied Christ’s very Divinity, is leading men of good will everywhere to ask, can this man truly be pope? How can that be. They are right. It does not compute. It is a shock. We can only respond in charity. Similarly, it is in charity to call on Francis to step down and repent of his crimes, sacrileges and blasphemies.

True, he may not. But at least someone needs to tell him the truth.

I would add, what I just wrote to Brother Aqua—

Not to worry, Aqua--

The so-called hierarchy--I call them The Cast of Clowns--is fully comfortable with mass apostasy. It's the new Anti-Church religion of the AntiPope and his minions, it's profitable, and it's keeping the Tanqueray in their tonic, and the fat see-gars in their fat faces.

I say again: Not to worry. For Antipope Francis and his minions are revealing who they are, in their arrogance and overconfidence. Our Lady is flushing them out. Our Lord is extending them the rope on which to hang, Judas like.

It's all been prophesied. Fatima. Our Lady of Good Success. St Catherine Emmerich. Apostasy at the highest levels, to the very chair of St Peter, in the clutches now of and upon which Antipope Francis the Apostate--who now denies Christ's very Divinity!--now squats, like a Gollum hissing "My Preciousss."

The Immaculate Conception is readying her strike. And it will not be a glancing blow. We can now double down on the Rosary; Confession and the other Sacraments; and fasting. For "this kind [of demon--like Bergoglio and his ilk] can only be cast out by prayer and fasting."

Antipope Francis, the Apostate--Hear you this:

You are going down, Antipope Francis. Repent. Vacate the See of Peter. Get thee to a monastery for a life of silence and penance for your crimes and blasphemies and sacrileges.

Before it is too late, and you return to that very Hell which you deny, and meet your master the devil there.

Begone! Antipope Francis the Apostate! Begone—pull a McCarrick, and as Hamlet said: “Get Thee to a nunnery!”

Justina said...

Who are you to judge?

Justina said...

I listened to the TnT comments on this with great interest. It seemed to me that Timothy Gordon--the brighter bulb of the two--was taking extreme care not to exceed his boss' Overton Window. After all, as Mr. Martinez has pointed out, look what happened the last time Gordon expressed any sympathy for the Invalidy argument. Now he says he "doesn't know." He knew before.

Justina said...

BTW Mr. Martinez, I cannot locate your email in order to send you something, and I don't want to post mine here. Any other suggestions for me?

Fred Martinez said...

Justina,

Google: Fred Martinez Nietzsche and Church Scandals

for an old article at catholiceducation.org. My email address is at the bottom of the post.

Justina said...

Thanks!

Chris Benischek said...

Feast of St Francis Borgia
Confessor, Past Master General of the Company of Jesus

Thanks for the feedback, Miss Justina.

To answer your Francis-like question, I'm no one special.

Just a dumb sheep in the pew. I know our Creed however. I know what Our Lady of Fatima said 102 years ago, at least that part of it that is public record. And I know from personal observation what Francis has done and said for, lo, these past six years coming up on seven.

Francis convicts himself. I judge the external actions, which are visible for all to see who have eyes. Shall I list them for you?

In Corde Christe, and in fond remembrance of that halcyon age of St Francis Borgia, when Jesuits were men,

Chris Benischek

Aqua said...

@ Chris - I am told by those who follow such things that this anti-Church will get much worse. Pachamama is just a portent of great, gathering evil emanating from the seven hills.

But then it will get much better - as in better than in all human history (the millennium they call it I do believe).

And perhaps one of the first things our first post anti-Christ Pope will do is clean out all the miserable angry old man-ladies guarding the gates to the Seminaries; clean out all their effeminate selections; burn every last book and paper; perhaps burn every last building too, in a cleansing fire.

Then - Seminaries will be a place to train men to be men; and then as men to be Priests. And we, the People Of God, will be with them as soldiers for Christ.

Aqua said...

Non appropo of anything, but to lighten the mood and show that God is truly a God of love, kindness, mercy ... here is a video of a little Chinese girl talking to her adopted Momma about where she came from and how she entered this wonderful family.

These little precious children are gifts from God. We cherish life. God is good:

https://www.facebook.com/moxiandsass/videos/524673428317947/

Don’t know if the link will work, but copy and paste it. Well worth your time.

BrotherBeowulf said...

That’s a beautiful girl that Gabby. Thanks.

(We fight for them as you know Brother A.)

Fred Martinez said...

You're welcome.