tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post5253612928134710360..comments2024-03-26T05:47:00.389-07:00Comments on The Catholic Monitor: Does Ralph Martin Brings a False Spirit into the Catholic Church?Fred Martinezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-60108972216038240462013-11-23T12:08:51.486-08:002013-11-23T12:08:51.486-08:00Dear Della,
You can email me at mrtnzfred@aol.com...Dear Della,<br /><br />You can email me at mrtnzfred@aol.com.<br /><br />Fred<br />Fred Martinezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-69901929538730989302013-11-23T11:58:33.925-08:002013-11-23T11:58:33.925-08:00Dear Colin L
Please show where Fr Hardon or Bisp...Dear Colin L <br /> Please show where Fr Hardon or Bisphop Sheen or anyone else has stated misunderstandings of the history of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal. <br /><br />Please be give exact quotes.<br /><br />Please quote Church Fathers or church documents other than the heretic Montanus writings on the problems that Fr Hardon or Bisphop Sheen present.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />FredFred Martinezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-91751323429802396862013-04-02T15:51:56.435-07:002013-04-02T15:51:56.435-07:00Fred,
While in the process of being led back to t...Fred,<br /><br />While in the process of being led back to the Catholic Church from being a person who thought you could be Catholic without going to Church or following the Holy Father, I saw Ralph Martin on TV. I did not know who he was at the time. Is there I way that I can share this experience privately with you? There were two other times that I ran across him in person that I would like to share with you. This took place between 2000 and 2003. I thought that I was the only person who didn't take Ralph Martin at face value. DellaDellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05207770909923751117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-83925744468529104472013-04-02T15:45:03.804-07:002013-04-02T15:45:03.804-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Dellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05207770909923751117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-40645461590808808492012-01-04T10:56:58.195-08:002012-01-04T10:56:58.195-08:00Sorry William Malecki not Colin.
God love you,
F...Sorry William Malecki not Colin.<br /><br />God love you,<br /><br />FredFred Martinezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-70283152214579838262012-01-04T10:52:56.312-08:002012-01-04T10:52:56.312-08:00Colin,
Respectfully, I would say back to you if I...Colin,<br /><br />Respectfully, I would say back to you if I have to choose between Pope Benedict or Dr. Martin<br /> to discern whether Fr Hardon, Bishop Sheen and Mr. Salbato's teachings and practices are in accord with Church teaching I will err on the side of following the Holy Father.<br /><br />I posted some problems from Fr Hardon and Bishop Sheen which they had in this regard. Please answer mine and their exact problems since the Pope hasn't spoken on these exact problems to my knowledge. <br /><br />Quote Dr. Martin or any other Catholic loyal to the Church and Holy Father.Fred Martinezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938859619399753890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-26636108300128688042012-01-03T16:08:11.395-08:002012-01-03T16:08:11.395-08:00As an opening comment, a person whose practices ar...As an opening comment, a person whose practices are not in accord with Church teaching would not receive the endorsement of ecclesiastical authorites.<br /><br />The faculty of the Pontifical University of St. Thomas in Rome recently granted Dr. Martin a doctorate in sacred theology. His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI recently appointed Dr. Martin as a consultor to the Pontifical Council for the New Evangelization. I trust them that Dr. Martin is in full communion and accord with the Catholic Church.<br /><br />As to your specific issue:<br /><br />Please answer how "babbl[ing] and utter strange things, prophesying in a manner contrary to the custom of the Church handed down by tradition from the beginning" by Mormon, Montanist, etc... are not heretical using Catholic Church teaching and church doctors teaching. <br /><br />Assuming that Dr. Martin has at times received gifts of the Spirit which produce such practices, you should judge Dr. Martin by his fidelity to the Magesterium and to the Doctors of the Church, whose wisdom he has written about so well in his recent publications. <br /><br />Blessed John Paul II was a great supporter of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal:<br /><br />He said:<br />"...Today it is a fact of the Church’s life that many vocations arise and blossom in the heart of the various Movements and Associations. I wish to encourage you to give close attention within the Catholic Charismatic Renewal to this particular mode of God’s love for his People. The prayerful response of your members and associates to this grace will be a further, explicit sign of the Renewal’s sharing in the life and mission of the Church, the visible body of Christ (Cf. 1Cor. 12: 27)." <br /><br />from: ADDRESS OF HIS HOLINESS JOHN PAUL II TO THE LEADERS OF THE CATHOLIC CHARISMATIC RENEWAL<br />Castel Gandolfo<br />Saturday, 18 September 1993<br /><br />I'm not an educated Catholic scholar, just a Catholic who is faithful to the Church and the teachings of its Magisterium as confirmed by our Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI and all the sucessors of St. Peter who preceded him.<br /><br />Respectfully, if I have to choose between Pope Benedict or Mr. Salbato to discern whether Dr. Martin's teachings and practices are in accord with Church teaching I will err on the side of following the Holy Father.William Maleckihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09388212109602526861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22704303.post-4737986777530516492010-10-19T07:45:26.859-07:002010-10-19T07:45:26.859-07:00Fred,
You might want to read "Christian Initi...Fred,<br />You might want to read "Christian Initiation and Baptism in the Spirit" which is a scholarly examination of the charisms in the Scripture and the early church. It is written by Fr. Kilian McDonnell, OSB and Fr. George Montague. Fr. Kilian was one of the founding members of the Catholic-Pentecostal dialogue that the Vatican established many years ago. Fr. George is a Bible scholar. They provide ample evidence for the presence and esteem for the charisms for the first 400+ years of the Church, despite the excesses of Montanism. The article you quote is based on a number of misunderstandings of the history of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal.<br />Colin LaVergneColin Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01463304263605339866noreply@blogger.com